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FOXPhotog - 2003-04-10 09:37:55
Keeping an open and discerning mind when viewing any news report is a very good idea. There will forever be those who claim that the US Gov't does clandestine things that are purportedly horrific. It is very easy to level such claims with impunity; they are impossible to corroborate or substantiate. Claims like these are dangerous because they can obfuscate the truth that is there. Be vigilant about the truth, but also have the courage to be intellectually honest. The strike on the Palestine hotel was as it was reported: in response to sniper fire. I can assure you that the US military has much more important targets than a few indy journalists who only reach a minute minority of people with their reports. If the US military was really trying to keep something quiet, they would start by bombing the main uplink centers for the networks. What happened in the instance of the Palestine hotel was unfortunate, but nothing more. BTW, I'm a member of the Washington DC media and I mourn the loss of my brethern journalists. They knew the danger and took the risk. Please do not try to make their deaths unwilling pawns in an anti-US campaign. It is wrong and misguided. Thanks FOXPhotog, Washington D.C. Pentagon Briefing Room
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Lori - 2003-04-10 11:09:02
FOXPhotog...if there weren't so many reports in opposition to your stance, I would be inclined to believe you; however, this Administration is determined to keep alternative news sources from reaching the American public. And yes, all journalists know the risks they take, but would have thought you would die in a hotel that has been known to hold journalists. Death in the field, yes, but where you sleep and is well known that this is where you sleep...sorry, the story just doesn't wash. As for sniper attack? Where did you hear that one? On FauxNews? (laughs)
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FOXPhotog - 2003-04-10 20:24:43
Many reports do not the truth make. I've been covering, for sometime now, the indy media movement in this country. I must admit, they are innovative, creative and very good in some fundamental ways. My problem is they seem to suffer from the very ill that they themselves accuse the big media of having, an agenda. Their reporting, mostly online streaming or public access, is so one-sided and peppered with social commentary that to believe it as journalism is to suspend one's belief in reality. I'm not attacking them, but I strive for objectivity and truth. When I see those who are, by design, ignoring objectivity and truth and passing it off as the 'real' truth it really bugs me. I think the indy media could really serve a vital function among a younger audience. But with such neophyte "journalism" it will be hard to really make a substsntial difference. I think indy media preaches to its own proverbial choir, so of course they believe it. As to your assertion about the administration, refer to what I posted earlier: "It is very easy to level such claims with impunity; they are impossible to corroborate or substantiate. Claims like these are dangerous because they can obfuscate the truth that is there." Again without hard evidence your assertion will only fall on deaf ears. And what good does it do to tell your opinion to someone who you know agrees with you? The "FauxNews" comment is juvenile. That type of name calling doesn't wash with us. FOXPhotog
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FOXPhotog - 2003-04-10 20:26:05
Many reports do not the truth make. I've been covering, for sometime now, the indy media movement in this country. I must admit, they are innovative, creative and very good in some fundamental ways. My problem is they seem to suffer from the very ill that they themselves accuse the big media of having, an agenda. Their reporting, mostly online streaming or public access, is so one-sided and peppered with social commentary that to believe it as journalism is to suspend one's belief in reality. I'm not attacking them, but I strive for objectivity and truth. When I see those who are, by design, ignoring objectivity and truth and passing it off as the 'real' truth it really bugs me. I think the indy media could really serve a vital function among a younger audience. But with such neophyte "journalism" it will be hard to really make a substsntial difference. I think indy media preaches to its own proverbial choir, so of course they believe it. As to your assertion about the administration, refer to what I posted earlier: "It is very easy to level such claims with impunity; they are impossible to corroborate or substantiate. Claims like these are dangerous because they can obfuscate the truth that is there." Again without hard evidence your assertion will only fall on deaf ears. And what good does it do to tell your opinion to someone who you know agrees with you? The "FauxNews" comment is juvenile. That type of name calling doesn't wash with us. FOXPhotog
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Lori - 2003-04-11 11:13:30
So FOXPhotog, are you really that scared of the Independent Press? So scared that you consider their reporting not as adequate as that drivel coming from FOX? Do you have any clue about the people who operate behind the scenes at FOX? Well let me give you a little bit of news, one of the guys is John Ellis. Do you know who he is? He is the cousin of George Bush. He is also the one who, in the 2000 Presidential race, called Florida for Bush before any other reports were coming out on other news sources about Florida. So just how fair is FOX news? Only as fair as BUSH wants it to be. I am extremely grateful to the Independent Press for having the courage that other news sources in this country DO NOT HAVE. At least they are giving us some alternative to what the Bush Administration wants us to see. I will continue to do as I have always done: read sources from all over the world and then compare them with what I see coming from US sources and then make up my own mind about what I believe and what I see as pure propaganda.
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FOXPhotog - 2003-04-11 11:49:52
Wow. That's one heck of an argument. However, lets look at the facts at hand. FOX had no knowledge of John Ellis' relationship to Bush prior to the election. Check your sources, even CNN confirms it. After FOX found out, Ellis was let go to pursue other pursuits. Ellis was not in charge of making that call, the EP (executive producer) was. So, while that sounds good on the surface, it doesn't hold water. BTW according to CNN.com, "...did note that the three other members of Fox's decision desk team included two Democrats and a third person with Democratic ties." So what does that prove? Equally, nothing. There is nothing here except for the deception on Ellis' part about not disclosing his obvious conflict of interest to FOX's management. As to being scared of the indy press. Hardly. I consider them a useful tool, but a misguided one, as I stated earlier. I have nothing against them, except for their lack of true journalistic objectivity. I have the same problem with several large, established media organizations, too. Far too many folks see the media as a tool of propaganda. That's too bad. But two wrongs don't cancel each other. FOXPhotog
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