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Holle - 2003-04-02 14:20:09
Evil: forcing the women and children you are supposed to be governing to stand as human shields to protect yourself. The blood of civilians is on Saddam's hands, not ours. We have actually jeopardized the safety of our own troops by not firing on snipers in civilian areas.
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Lori - 2003-04-02 15:21:04
Stop being a misguided mouth-piece for the BUSHITES
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Bacchian - 2003-04-02 16:10:45
Burn the earth to the ground. Raze it all, goddamnit. People who believe we are losing our freedom of speech are imbeciles and alarmists with no patriotic minds-- first, practice your second amendment, then your first amendment will always be protected. ;)
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Lori - 2003-04-02 16:13:03
If we keep letting this government get away with their small take-a-little-here-and-there tactics, your guns will be gone too. Wisen UP!
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Luciyen - 2003-04-02 17:44:38
you are so correct. All those people disagreeing with you down there are just brainwashed by the propaganda that's been spoon-fed to them by the mass media. It's propaganda, people. And yes, we are losing our freedom of speech and it fucking sucks. The media, which also used to challenge the government now works with them, so if you are basing your beliefs on what you hear on the news you are believing shit. Again, you are so correct. I could not agree with you more (:
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Lori - 2003-04-02 17:46:16
Thank you Luciyen. Maybe one day, when these people cannot even walk down the street without showing their "papers" they will wake up and stop being sheeple.
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call me Jefferson - 2003-04-02 18:15:36
to the fool that first responded... why would an american soldier hesitate to kill a sniper when they are killing thousands of innocent children with bombs each day. america is all but merciful. mercy is gold. maybe if we just put Sadam and Bush... hell everyone, on Opium the world would be much more peaceful. To not want to kill Iraqui innocents does not make me unpatriotic; bowing down to the Bush administration would. thank you for your hearing of my opinion.
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Lori - 2003-04-02 18:32:19
Right on! call me Jefferson!! Tell it like it is!
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Zee - 2003-04-02 18:40:28
You quoted the Bible "Blessed are the peacemakers". Making peace is a lot different than just wanting peace. Sometimes, for peace to be reached, you have to fight for it. "If you want peace, you must prepare for war" I don't remember who said that, but I think it holds true here. As for losing our freedom of speech, I don't know if I agree with that. The news is supposed to be objective, and tell the facts. That's hard to do when the topic is something that it's hard to feel wishy-washy about, but I think newsreporters still try to report objectivly. You either agree with the military action, or you don't. We still have our free speech because we're able to say "I don't agree with this war." If we didn't have that right, then that's when our free speech would be gone. Thanks for your time :-)
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Lori - 2003-04-02 18:44:52
I am sorry, I have to disagree. War=Peace is just more Orwellian-speak and it is not true. All it would take for peace is to lay down your weapons and try to compromise and get along. War is not the answer. War just causes more problems as we will see in the upcoming months. As for our freedom of speech being in jeapordy, I am afraid it is more so now than it has ever been. Just wait til Ashcroft gets his Patriot Act 2 passed and you won't be singing your tune long. And believe me, he will do all in his power to swindle it in.
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Tigress - 2003-04-02 20:23:05
:cough:: excuse me but this country is not mostly forms of christianity..it may seem it but it isn't. I take offense to that.
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Lori - 2003-04-02 20:28:22
::cough:: poor Tigress...don't be offended...stastics state that most people, regardless if they are religious or not, in the USA do indeed claim to be Christian. Sorry doll, just stating the facts. I am not CHRISTIAN, myself and it doesn't offend me. If it does offend you, then it is a reflection of yourself.
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J.J. - 2003-04-02 20:43:14
When has biggotry and stupid comments not been apart of America? - ya know, being patriotic and all.
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Misty - 2003-04-02 23:12:18
The idea that "war is sometimes necessary", be it for peace, or protection of self-interests, is what allows war to be acceptable. No one man or woman, or group of men and women, would have the power to execute wars if they were not supported by "patriots." Without us, they would merely be another voice screaming in the wind. In effect, wars happen because we (as a general whole) empower people who see war as an option. It's simple. Don't support war. While you may not be able to change what anyone else thinks or does, your behavior and beliefs is all up to you. If you know that war is wrong, then *don't support it*, and it won't happen. Sounds simple, doesn't it? Amazing how simple the truth can be.
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flyinby - 2003-04-02 23:19:40
sadly misguided. i disagree with you whole-heartedly.
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Misty - 2003-04-02 23:40:41
It's easy to say, "I disagree with you, you're misguided." Care to provide some other philosophies/reasons/points of view to be examined? :)
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chance - 2003-04-03 03:06:56
As a lovely, prominent activist friend of mine has said, "Waging war for peace is like fuckin' for virginity." Honestly I don't know if these are her words or not but I think the statement makes sense. As an avid peace supporter/war protester, I have been called "unpatriotic" many a time. Similarly, I have been told to "shut your mouth and support our troops!" One, I think questioning the reasons for this war and peacefully protesting against perceived wrongs of your country for the better of fellow citizens as well as around the world is one of the most patriotic and humanitarian acts one can participate in. Which leads me to number two, I support life over murder (as opposed to this wacked out notion of "self defense" BEFORE the other party has even attacked the other) which includes the safety of our troops. We all want them home and breathing, not in body bags. I've observed a totally, unrealistic, deluded "good v. evil" split which dehumanizes one people (the Iraqi) and juxtaposes them to another people (the US or "free world") portrayed as these humanitarian "liberators". This world view completely degenerates the reality that we're ALL human, whether we believe in peace or war, are poor or rich, gay/bi/transgender or straight, old or young, brown, yellow, red, white, Muslim, Buddhist, Christian, Catholic, Daoist, Wiccan, Atheist, Agnostic, man, womyn, and everything in between these silly, ultimately secondary labels. What comes first is our shared HUMANity. We're brother and sister, a family. We share the same bloodlines as far as our origins are concerned. This is largely why those of us who are against this war are against it. It has very little to do with "being unpatriotic" and everything to do with making an effort to examine what exactly the Bush administration is doing and seeing that the reasons for this war are not consistent from one month to the next. More and more things look suspicious and economically driven for US self-interest, that "self" restricted to Western upper class wealthies. Reason to believe "Iraqi Freedom" is really a guise for passing the Iraqis from one hell to another hell. This country (US) has done it before and it doesn't seem unreasonable to think the government will do it again.
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Pezlie - 2003-04-03 03:08:09
Embedded reporters being censored... geeze. It's war, ok. Dosen't matter weather your for or against the thing, we're in it. There's only so much you can say before you compramise your location and practically ask people to kill you. And... if you're a reporter, you are practically required to remain neutral and keep your own opinions about it to yourself. You don't become the story. Bad for the government my ass. It's bad for the press.
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Ryuu - 2003-04-03 05:04:43
Bravo, Ravynemyst! You've said nearly the same things I've been saying since this whole sorry mess started. Nice to meet another hippie peacenick here on good ol' D-Land, and you'll be going right on my favorites list as soon as I'm done here. ^_^
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Ryuu - 2003-04-03 05:05:54
Bravo, Ravynemyst! You've said nearly the same things I've been saying since this whole sorry mess started. Nice to meet another hippie peacenick here on good ol' D-Land, and you'll be going right on my favorites list as soon as I'm done here. ^_^
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Raven - 2003-04-03 09:35:17
Great words on the war. I really respect and agree with your opinion.
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call911 - 2003-04-03 14:37:34
I've been feeling the same way Lori. People are supposed to be able to speak freely, even if its appalling or goes against the grain. I was shocked by the treatment given to Peter Arnett, not to mention others. Life in these times is begining to closely echo the McCarthy era of the 50's. Even more appalling to me was I found the very first article on SARS, before it was called that. Within hours of seeing it, it had disappeared off the news wires, CDC and WHO had erased all mention of it, and news didn't resurface on it for a WEEK. Someone tell me our government didn't have a hand in that. Peace
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Windy - 2003-04-03 19:25:12
Have you ever been to Iraq, or a country like it? I have. I have lived in a country whose leader - "President" in name, dictator in actions, tyrant in truth - is a murderer, a leader so bad that his own people THREW HIM OUT of the country, and he had to go to the leader of another country and get help to be put back in power. This tyrant does not get the publicity Hussein does mostly because he leads a small, "insignificant" country. It doesn't matter except to those who have some connection with it. It would be nice if someone cared enough to remove this man from power, to give this small country from freedom. I would welcome that, and so would the family I have that still live there, I know. Do I think the US has its problems? Hell yes. But I appreciate the freedoms of this country because I have lived without them, I have been among people who still live without them, and that saddens me. I have had family murdered by the tyrant I spoke of, for speaking out against him. I treasure my freedom of speech. I have family exiled from their home because they dared to take up arms against him in a coup. I treasure my freedom to bear arms, even though I do not carry a gun. If the founders of this country had not fought, in a (gasp!) WAR, we would not have the freedoms we do. YOu do not seem to appreciate this fact or those freedoms. You do not seem to appreciate the fact that people fought and died to secure you the freedom to say the things you are saying now. Go live in a country like I have spoken of, and we'll see how much you appreciate it then. If you did not have the freedom of speech, you would not be able to continue spewing this tripe. But although I disagree with your views, I respect your freedom of speech, so spew away.
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Dominic - 2003-04-03 19:44:20
I just stumbled across your diary and wanted to congratulate you on a great entry, keep it up.
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Lori - 2003-04-03 20:42:23
Windy..you are one the kind of people that have no clue and do not care about right and wrong so long as it doesn't inconvenience you directly. You think I don't care about those Iraqi people? You think I don't know they are living under horrible conditions? Well as a matter of fact DEAR, I DO KNOW! I am friends with 4 Iraqi families in my state who are in exile from their beloved Iraq and although they agree, as do I, that Saddam has to go, they and many like them in Iraq would much rather have Saddam in control of their country than have America OCCUPY their country. WHY? because at least Saddam is a muslim, albeit a more secular one than most in that area. He understands the way of muslims, the way of arabs. The US has NO clue. The Iraqi people look at this as an INVASION, not a "liberation." They fear that once Saddam is gone, then the US will desert them and leave them at the mercy of radical islamic rule in a country devasted by OUR bombing. They REMEMBER Gulf War 1 when thousands of their men where MURDERED on the road BACK to Iraq as they were retreating and the US bombed them and slaughtered them all. They REMEMBER being promised that if they fought WITH the US, then they would be given FREEDOM. IT NEVER HAPPENED! So please, little girl, don't tell me to LEAVE my country just because I disagree with this ASSHOLE in office and his policies. IT IS STILL MY RIGHT until the BUSHITES take those away too. And you'd best just remember that your beloved NEOCONS are planning to strip us of more rights with a SECOND "Patriot Act" and do some research on it.
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Windy - 2003-04-03 21:43:15
I never told you to leave your country. Do not presume to call me a little girl or anything else; at least I didn't stoop to name-calling. For someone who wants peace, you think yelling at people is the way to get it? Some logic there. And just as not everyone in this country is against the war, not everyone in Iraq is against the US coming in either. I'm sure the Iraqi people have as diverse opinions as we do. But you seem to want to pigeonhole them into the opinions of the few you have spoken to. Do those four families represent the feelings their entire country? No. Do you represent the feelings of our entire country? Thank God you don't.
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Lori - 2003-04-03 22:58:02
No, you didn't directly tell me to leave Windy, but you did infer it by telling me that I do not "appreciate" my freedoms. You are still wrong. I appreciate them more than people like you who pretend every day that everything is ok and that our president is some kind of hero for sending our men and women to fight for Iraqi "liberation" when this war is the furthest from heroics and has nothing to do with liberating anyone. Another thing that really surprises me is how you could assume that I was "yelling" at you when I was only emphasizing aspects of my points above by capitalizing them. I do not "yell" at people, but please believe as you will. I only hope that the sheeple in this country wake up before it is too late and they see this president for who he really is and what these bloody wars he is so fond of are really about. They have nothing to do with "liberating" people or creating democracy for these people. They all deal with securing business deals for the Bushites (many of which are already happening) and some day HISTORY will reveal this as TRUE. But please Windy, continue to believe as you do, support this war and this president and may humanity have forgiveness on all of you in the future.
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WIndy - 2003-04-03 23:21:12
FIrst of all, according to proper "netiquette", capitalizing entire words online is equivalent to yelling, so I think it was understandable that I took it that way. I inferred nothing; I stated a simple opinion that I do not believe you truly appreciate your freedoms, and suggest that living in another country might give you some prespective. Hearing about it from people who have lived it is one thing; living it yourself is entirely different. I do not pretend that everything is ok; if I thought it was I wouldn't bother talking to small-minded people like you. And I never said anything about Bush at all, or even whether or not I specifically support it. You make assumptions and put words in my mouth. You are closed-minded and everyone else's opinioned be damned unless it concurs with yours! I was willing to have a reasoned discussion with you, but you decided to bitch and name-call. Fine. You whine all you want; I'm done listening.
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Lori - 2003-04-04 00:01:19
You call me small-minded and closed-minded? ha! what a laugh. If there was even a hint of truth coming out of you and those like you, my mind might narrow a bit to find a common ground with you. It amuses me that neocons all believed that the Iraqi people would just throw down their weapons and kiss the feet of their "great liberators" and roll over to let them take over their country. Well they haven't done that at all, much to the bewilderment of the Bushite War planners. As for some in Iraq wanting this war, it would seem that the only ones cooperating are the Kurds with the hopes that they will get their own separate country and protection from the Turks. Furthermore, average Iraqi citizens who may have welcomed the US-led war in the beginning are becoming more and more anti-american because of all the civilian casualties in this war. And please, I am so sick of hearing that Saddam is using civilians as human shields. Our bombs are hitting civilian areas that have nothing to do with military franchises. And no, it isn't just the words of my friends here in America that I have listened to, it is the voices of the millions of Iraqis screaming in pain as their country is being bombed and their children and loved ones are dying that I am listening to. And it is the voices of dissenting British soldiers who are now being court-martialed because they have seen these atrocities and refuse to fight anymore for an unjust, illegal war. And it is the voices of the millions of people all over the world who are marching and protesting about this unjust war. It would seem, Windy, that you and those like you, may seem to hold the majority view in this country because of slanted polls; however, the real majority are the millions everywhere who say this war, this bloodbath, this unnecessary murder is unjust and illegal. So please, do not listen to me anymore for I have no more time to listen to you either. I have more important things to do.
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Misty - 2003-04-04 04:05:06
Is there something wrong with looking at things in terms of 'good' and 'evil'?

The human tendency to justify is an incredible thing. We can go from, "It's wrong to do a thing," to "It's wrong to do a thing, UNLESS," in an instant.

Doesn't make that thing any less wrong. We as humans are born with inherent instincts, one of which tells us, even those of us who currently support a war and see it as necessary, that it is wrong. It is only through the suppression of that voice of conscience that we come to accept and support it.

So I'm aware that until people are willing to acknowledge that, and to stop justifying that sometimes, an evil thing is okay, if you do it for the right reasons, because blah blah blah BLAH, wars (and other travesties) will continue.

There's also the whole matter of people in general being "sheeple" (shame I didn't coin that term). It's easy (and lazy) to put one's energies behind someone else's principles, rules, ideologies, and allow that other person to do the thinking for them.

What's the point in having free will, if it's not being used to the fullest? Might as well be enslaved in this Matrix-like existence, if one can't reason for themselves.
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Joy - 2003-04-04 04:26:09
First, I take it that to you, war means only battle of the physical kind. Correct me if I'm wrong. Better yet, show me. Second, I have nothing against anyone personally, nor will you hear me call anyone "unpatriotic". Patriotism has little to do with your opinion, and everything to do with your personality. Do you respect this country, what it stands for, anf how we got here? If so, then you are a patriot. Third, . . .Bushites? I've heard the followers of the church of Scientology called "Hubbardites" by my man Heinlien, but. . . Bushites? *giggles* Fourth, ". . .report the news as they see it, fairly and honestly." When it comes to opinion, that is the farthest thing from the truth. Report the news as it happens? Yes. Report the news "as they see it"? No. A fair and honest reporter would not.I am hugely bothered by the number of civilian deaths and injuries in this mess. I am rather offended by the disparaging comments made here about Christians, as I am one. I am disturbed by all of this, but I am also not convinced that you are "right", any more than anyone else in this madness is right. War is a sad, and powerful, and painful thing, and one which our generation, or mine at least, has seen very little of. I'm not angry like my little sis Windy, and I'm not convinced of anything in this war, one way or the other, because the whole idea of war makes me sick, but I do recognize the place that it has, both in history and possibly in the future. Remember, those of us who love peace, really and truely, are not afraid to fight for it, when and if we must. Those of us who know truth are not afraid to speak it, whether it's a happy day that sees it or not. I respect people who profess the Quaker faith, because they are pacifists in truth, both in action *and* in words. I repect your right to hold your opinion, and also my right to hold my own. I honor our troops, not as poor, unknowing children sent off to face the horrors of battle, but as willing men and women,doing their country, and you, and me, a service that can never be repaid. I despise the actions of the people who have withheld honor from the troops from Vietnam, and I am throughly disgusted by the insulting, flaming, and just plain rude way you speak to those who disagree with you, political activist or not. "Activism" does not mean "I can say what I want,and you have to take it". You can say what you want, but I'll tell you, you will not get far, with me at least, with your answers full of insults. Convince me, if you can, and you'll have my respect. If you want me to leave, though, I will. And, Misty, I agree about the conscience thing. That's why my butt is so firmly planted on this fence.
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Lori - 2003-04-04 05:11:33
Joy...First, no, I do not assume that war means only *physical* war. I have no clue where you are going with that one or what your point is. There are more battles in the world than just physcial ones. For instance, I am at war with neocons, the religious "right" and sheeple. Am I physically battling them? No, I am using the wonderful literary world. Second, while you are welcomed to your opinions on the term "patriotism", I must disagree to some extent. Patriotism for me is more than just *personality* and it isn't showmanship either. For me it is defending the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It has nothing to do with flag waving and wearing red, white, and blue. It has nothing to do with praising a man that I know is WRONG, just because he dragged us into a bloody war. It has nothing to do with supporting a war that I believe is wrong. Thirdly, yes, Bushites. Federalist Society members, neocons, the Religious "right"...all of those who believe that Bush has a mandate from God for this bloody war and support his policies. Fourth, when I said "report it as they see it" I didn't mean their opinion. I meant as they witnessed it. Take it as you will though, since you already have. I am not trying to be *right*. This has nothing to do with who is right and who is wrong. This has to do with getting out the important information so that people can form their own opinions. I don't want to be right; I just want to show the moderate views on this bloody war. You and Misty both seem to think that I do not respect other's opinions. This is totally wrong. I respect anyone's right to their opinions, so long as it is on topic. Otherwise, I would have deleted comments from here that I disagree with. However, this is *my* blogsite and I *will* post my opinions here. You can disagree all you want, but it isn't going to change my opinions because I have done the research on this Bush Crime Family; I know their agendas and they are determined to bring in their New World Order regardless of who gets in the way. War to them is just a means to the end. They do not care about the dying or the injured. They do not care about the Vets who have served before (evidence of this is all the cuts they have been doing against the vets and their families). I will love and support our troops so long as they are doing their jobs; however, with more and more reports coming in of senseless atrocities by some soliders, it is making me lose faith in our troops to be fair in their actions. As for my manner of "speech" towards those who disagree with me, again, this is my blogsite and I will say what I please. You can chose to stick around and post your comments, but I will speak my mind. I don't need the thought-police to censor my words. And finally, if you are offended by my opinions on christians, I would respectfully ask that you view them in their intent and not by your own prejudices. I try my best to *not* generalize against *all* christians because I do acknowledge that there are some christians who are very much christ-like. However, there are also those christians who do not heed Jesus' messages of being peacemakers and are instead demanding bloody wars, death, destruction, and have a total disregard for international peace efforts.
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Pandionna - 2003-04-04 23:48:24
Sing it! LOUDLY! I have a buddy from Paraguay. He grew up in the dictatorship, and managed to get out. He passed a comment once that shook me: He said that Bush was giving him deja vu. This nonsense with "don't criticize the government" is EXACTLY how dictatorships get started. I'm surprised Windy can't see that. I would think anyone who truly has lived in a place where rights were taken away would see this administration for what it is: illegitimate, oppressive, and suppressive.
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Joy - 2003-04-05 02:27:07
Ok, I'm going to be organized about this, as much as my slightly off-kilter mind can be, and then I'll leave you to your opinions. First, what I meant (but misspoke) was that in regard to being against war, you meant only the physical kind. You answered my question yourself, though, adn very effectively. Now, I really have to ask, what is a neocon? I have never heard the term, and I'm curious. As for the "patriotism" bit, I agree that what you cite is as much a part of it as what I did, and my words made no mention of the current president at all. But, on the other hand, the two definitions go hand in hand, although "personality" was the wrong word. . .forgive the vocabulary lapse. I believe I meant to say "actions". And as for this being your site, I respect that and I'm not interested in censoring you, but I really don't like to be flamed either. I know that you didn't flame me, but I see you doing it to other people. I think that's all I can answer right now with any kind of calmness, and so that's where I'll stop. Have a good night, everybody!
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Lori - 2003-04-05 23:14:01
Joy...thanks for your diplomacy and tactfulness. I have a great deal of respect for you. Neocons is a relatively newly coined word. It stands for New Conservatives. The funny thing about this term is that the Neocons are made up of old time republicans; however, their views are relatively new to the republican stance. As one person stated to me one day, this isn't the Republican party of my father's day anymore. Most Neocons belong to an organization called the Federalist Society. This group is mostly made up of lawyers, although there are a few corporation CEOs and even some Journalists who belong to the group. There biggest agenda is to "return this country to GOD, as originally intended," and a lot of these people in this society are strict religious "right" types. What they do not realize is that our country wasn't founded on fundamentalist christianity. It was founded more on Deism philosophy and Freemason rites. One of the biggest things this group is working towards is to abolish Separation of Church and State. This was a big issue with many of our Founding Fathers because they came from a country where the State and Church were ONE (remember, the King of England was also the head of the Anglican Church) and they saw how this corrupted government actions and choices. This is by no means a flame against christianity; I am just stating the facts. A couple members of this group are Rumsfeld and Ashcroft in the Bush Administration, but there are many others as well.
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Joy - 2003-04-06 04:12:24
The seperation between church and state is very important, for the simple fact that over the years the two have never been able to keep their fingers out of eachother's pie, as it were. It's a delicate balance, however, that forms the line between the said seperation and something very nasty. . .And I think that things are finally starting to balance out, to an extent. I think that denying anyone the right to pray anywhere, as long as it is not unduely influencing anyone else, is a crime, no matter what religion they belong to. And I prayed when I was Pagan as well, so I can say that. Thank you for the respect, and the definition. :-)
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mitch - 2003-04-06 14:43:02
first, thats not my website, but a very good site of a local zine. now. some uniformed posts on here call it absured that we think we are losing freedoms. you just type 'patriot-act' into a search engine and read a little bit. that bill was passed with many of the congressmen not even bothering to read it....i mean hell, it's called 'the patriot act', so how can that be bad? someone should draft a bill called 'USA is awsome', and in that bill, include plans to dissasemble centralized government. No one would read it. it's obviously good, with a name like that.
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Lori - 2003-04-06 21:36:04
Joy - I am glad to hear that you think Separation of Church and State is important. I wish more people felt that way. Also, I have no problem with prayer. I believe prayer is important to spiritual people and it is necessary. I also do not mind if people pray where ever they are. My big issue with prayer is "forced-time" for prayer that is slanted towards one particular religion.
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Lori - 2003-04-06 21:52:37
Mitch - you are so right. This administration is carefully coining phrases to sounds sweet and nice and wonderful and then hiding some of the most horrific things within. It is basically wolves in sheep clothing. So far, we have the Patriot Act which is the furthest thing from being patriotic. It slowly steals away our rights from the Constitution. And you are right Mitch, it was never read by anyone in Congress because at the time it was passed, it hadn't even been completely written. So you can imagine that some pretty harry-scary things were added AFTER it was passed. Next we have the "Leave No Child Behind" initiative. Within that craftily coined law, the government can, without permission, obtain any records on our children and ourselves to further whatever agendas they may have. Now this may not seem scary to some people, but it is a PRIVACY issue and we are given the right to privacy in the Constitution. Another of this administration's crafty laws are the "Faith-based Initiative" and "school vouchers". I will discuss School Vouchers first. This whole thing sounds wonderful because supposedly it is giving parents a choice. However, let me give you a few things to consider: first, this does absolutely nothing to help public eduction. Second, alot of people think it is wonderful that they can pull their kids out of public schools and place them into religious private schools and have the government pay for this. Sounds awesome, huh? However, think about this: after a while, so many kids are going to private schools that the public school system fails completely. Then the government decides that there is no longer a need for the vouchers. Who is going to pay for these kids' education now? The parents! And if they cannot afford it, then what? There are no more public schools, so your kids will not get an education. Also, the government could turn this another way and force these private schools to teach topics that the government wants them to or the government will take away their voucher fundings. Ok, this then leads to the Faith-based initiative program. I think it is wonderful that the government wants to help people. And if the only way they want to right now is through funding various faiths, so be it. However, there will come a time when the government may force these faiths to do certain things that may be against their policies in order to keep their funding from the government. Like I said before...Wolves in Sheep clothing.
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